Engaging with Pakistan

For a while (especially since Clinton-Obama battle reached epic proportions) I’ve been following the Daily Dish by Andrew Sullivan. It’s still sitting in my reader, the feed, and I do see interesting posts every once in a while. The Dish, as he calls it, is a sane opinion, almost all the time.

However, enter India-Pakistan, and the link I get there is this, as “disturbing analysis”:

If Pakistan truly wishes to turn back the tide of fundamentalism in its country, and stop exporting violence overseas, then it must have proper support and assistance from India. (emphasis mine)

Did I read that right? Is it only me who seems pissed at this? Imagine saying something like this: “If you have a serial rapist in your family (whom you’ve used to raping and abusing your neighbors every once in a while when it suited you), you need to have a proper support from those he raped and abused, for you to turn your back on him, effectively”.

What exactly is this “proper support”? Do they want our commando teams in their territory, in a joint mission with Pakistani army to root out the terror camps? I’m sure Indian government will be all ears and more. Do they want Indian commandos and special forces, and spies to hunt for Dawood and other gangsters/terrorists hiding in Pakistan? I’m sure, again, Indian government will be more than willing. Do they want Indian air-force to destroy the terror camps by carpet bombing? I’m sure …

The sooner India and Pakistan publicly announce a joint, high level work force to defuse the situation and engage in some serious counter-intelligence in anti-terrorism activities between the two countries, then the sooner the sorts of scenes that has been displayed across the world the past few hours can be put to one side, and the basic fundamentals of a peace accord between factions within the two countries finally be implemented. It needs to happen fast.

Diffuse the situation? What the fuck is this situation? Global fanatical Jihadi terror? Terrorism (and terrorists) systematically nurtured, almost as a state policy, with ISI support, for years, by one country, which now needs ‘proper’ support of the affected country to even turn it’s back on the terror network, not even to crack down on them?

Yeah right. Serious counter intelligence. Against ISI? Against infiltration? Against those terrorists in Kashmir, who’ve crossed the line of control, after taking training on that side? Against Indian Mujahiddin/Laskhar/…? Against terror camps that are still brewing inside the POK and the rest? What exactly is this joint counter-intelligence we’re talking about? Please? What exactly in it is on India’s plate?

I mean what the fuck? Why the fuck does a Pakistani involvement in anti-terror initiative have to be conditional (more below)? If they’re serious, it has to be unconditional, unilateral, urgent, unequivocal. Enough of India should do this and India should do that, from all these cronies.

So here is the reason, according to the cronies, why it has to be conditional: hold your breath:

Yet meeting just last week with Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif, the Chief Minister of Punjab, I was reminded just how Pakistan itself hurts from extremism. Whilst looking to attract foreign investment into Pakistan, he acknowledged, as did the Ministry of Commerce and several other high ranking officials as part of the official government delegation visiting China just how much the country felt ‘embarrassed’ by violence.

Yes, embarrassed! This time, the emphasis is original, mind you! You’d think anyone who has the sense to put embarrassed in quotes like that would get the joke. Pakistan hurts from terrorism it actively supported, time and again, as a matter of state policy, to bleed India. It has been at a low intensity, and unilateral, war with India for last god knows how many years. Unilateral, unabashed, unapologetic, unembarrassed, too. Now that some chickens are coming home to roost, they’re embarrassed! And that’s enough for these cronies. Now that they’re embarrassed, all is forgotten. Now, India must “engage with Pakistan to root out militancy“. Classic.

Like US has engaged with Vietnam to root out communism? Like US has engaged with Iraq, and Afghanistan, to root out nuclear weapons and Islamic terrorism? Or would that embarrass the Pakistani government even further?

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3 thoughts on “Engaging with Pakistan

  1. Ghazala Khan says:

    Homegrown terrorism is an alarming and very chilling idea. No country likes to believe that violent and armed insurgency and militancy has taken root in its backyard. Countries tend to put the matters at the back burner for as long as possible. India is ignoring the terrorists of RSS, BJP and Bajrang Dal for too long, and now it’s the time for the them to pay back. The recent attack in Mumbai sprouts from within India and is a reaction of Babri Mosque, Gujarat Massacre and scores of other terrorist attacks on Muslims across India.

    The Pakistani Spectator
    http://www.pakspectator.com

  2. asuph says:

    Ghazala: I think you have a zero idea of what terrorism means. Your comment doesn’t warrant a response. But I’m going to let it stay for everyone to see what brainwashing can achieve. The fact that you just cut and paste a paragraph from some third-rate, factually inaccurate, article makes me further want to shut up. And I will. But not before I do cut and paste of the
    next paragraph:

    “The Hindu terrorist outfits were directly responsible for the mass murders and mass rapes of Muslims in different parts of India. In India, political and security analysts have been repeatedly saying that the Hindu extremist fringe has been organizing for terror attacks and Anti-Terrorist Squad of Maharashtra police have arrested many terrorists belonging to the RSS and other Hindu terrorist outfits in the wake of many terrorist incidents in the Mumbai, Delhi, Gujrat and at other places in India”

    This is a gem. Thanks.

    asuph.

  3. Harish Alagappa says:

    Okay.
    Gujarat happened in 2002. Terrorism is more than 6 years old.
    Babri Masjid was a mistake. (Not ALL Indians are as big assholes as the RSS!) And what happened afterwards was terrible. That was 16 years ago. The RSS’s stance is equally retarded: “When muslims built mosques 300 years ago, they destroyed temples.” Wow! Why don’t you attack Greece for the atrocities committed by Alexander the Great’s army in 325BC?
    There have been around a dozen major terror attacks this year in India. More people (Hindus and Muslims) have been killed in India from these attacks this year alone than in Gujarat and Babri. Far, far more. I mean… what more retribution do you want?
    Irfan and Yousuf Pathan are from Gujarat and lived through the riots there. You don’t see them barging into the Indian dressing room with AK-47s aimed at Sachin Tendulkar. (Or barging into the Australian dressing room?)
    Sorry, kiddo. But your points are what is called ‘Reductio Ad Homenium’ attacks. You try to had your flaws by attacking the other person. This is the last-ditch resort of someone who knows they are wrong subconsciously, but are struggling to admit it. Come out of the closet, you are on the wrong side.
    And why Jews? Did they ever kill anyone in Babri and Gujarat?
    Hindu terrorists did something far worse than that. Read about the Staines family. Australia hasn’t sent any home-grown terrorists to attack us. And this is a country that was a colony for felons who convicted the worst crimes of all around 150-200 years ago.
    How about this: You pick your best 20 fighters, we’ll pick ours. Throw them in a cage and let them fight. We’ll televise it and make millions! And whoever’s team kills the others off first wins! If we win, STOP FUCKING ATTACKING US! If you win, we’ll use our thousands of years old Vedic magic to raise from the dead every single Muslim who ever died on Indian soil.
    And one last thing: Jinnah envisioned Pakistan as a secular state built on the principles of a more softer, moderate and modern version of Islam. So, stop fucking up your founder’s vision.

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